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Research Information


Research Question
Does jello affect the rate of a seeds germination vs. a seed that is in knox gelatine?

Research Predictions
Our prediction is that the seeds in jello will germinate more than the seeds in the knox gelatine.

Experimental Design
Procedure:

1. Boil 100 milimeters of water in two different beakers.
2. Put a gram and a-half of both jello's in a beaker. (knox gelatine and j-ello)
3. Mix the j-ello and knox gelatine with a spoon until the mix is completely disolved.
4. Let the mix cool down. Then pour the mix into the patry dish.
5.Cover the dish and let it sit for 24 hours.
6. After 24 hours, sprinkle the seeds on top of the two different j-ellos.

Research Conclusions
Our research conclusion is that seeds germinate better in knox gelatine. Seeds grow faster in pure protien rather than seeds in carbohydrates and protien.


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November 19, 2007 | 3:42 PM | Mr. Bill Dahl

Thank you for your time!
Hi Cotyledons

On behalf of the organizations involved (see the list at the bottom of the page) and the entire PlantingScience team, thank you for spending some time with us. I sincerely hope you are going away with a better understanding of how science, and scientists, actually works. Experimental design, control, variables, repetition, trials, predictions, monocot, dicot, germination, data, data, data…. What a fascinating and exciting subject – I’m sure you’ll agree science really is pretty amazing when you get in, learn the language, and then design and run your own experiment! We hope to see you back again sometime soon.

Abby, thank you for taking the time to act as a mentor to the Cotyledons team! - Bill
November 17, 2007 | 1:28 AM | Ms. Abigail Moore  (Scientist/Mentor)

Thank you!
Hi Cotyledons!

I would also like to thank you for your enthusiasm, hard work, and all your thinking about what plants need and how to test some of your ideas with experiments. I really enjoyed working with you!

Good luck with your future scientific investigations!

Abby
November 16, 2007 | 2:37 AM | George08  (Team Member)


We would like to say thank you for your help, we appreciate it. We are quitting today. We learned alot from this experiment with your help. Thanks and goodbye Abby.

-Taylor, George, Timmy, Lynn
November 14, 2007 | 9:00 AM | Ms. Abigail Moore  (Scientist/Mentor)

Research Conclusions
Hi Cotyledons!

You have done a really great job with this research project! I enjoyed reading your lab journals with your different perspectives on the experiment. I had a question about your conclusion, though. I certainly agree with what you say about knox gelatine and jello. However, it seems from your data that seeds grow best in plain water. Do you think this is because the seeds "don't like" the protein or because the texture of the knox gelatine is difficult for them to grow in?

Abby
November 13, 2007 | 8:26 AM | Ms. Abigail Moore  (Scientist/Mentor)

fungus
Hi Cotyledons!

I wonder if the fungus grew better in the jello because of the added sugar and that allowed it to grow on the seeds? Also when the seedlings are actively growing, it would be harder for a fungus to attack them since they will be able to defend themselves somewhat. However, seedlings can't defend themselves as well as older plants can.

Abby
November 12, 2007 | 9:42 AM | Ms. Abigail Moore  (Scientist/Mentor)


Hi Cotyledons!

I'm looking forward to seeing your graphs, conclusions, and picture tomorrow! It sounds like the millet seeds must have been growing well in the knox gelatine! Do you think this was because they had more light (or maybe less light, if the other seeds had too much light), because of the knox gelatine, or something else? Of course, the millet seeds in the other treatments might have grown as much, but in a different direction.

Abby
November 11, 2007 | 11:12 PM | George  (Team Member)


We are finishing up doing our conclusions and graphs tomorrow. The millet seeds in the knox gelatine popped the lid. We are sending a picture of it tomorrow.
November 11, 2007 | 1:46 PM | Ms. Abigail Moore  (Scientist/Mentor)

Picture!
Hi Cotyledons!

I like your picture (and your name)!

Abby
November 8, 2007 | 8:16 AM | Ms. Abigail Moore  (Scientist/Mentor)

Sprouting!
Hi Team One!

That's interesting that the seeds sprouted best in distilled water, second best in knox gelatine, and not at all in jello. Why do you think that is? Do you think the color of the jello and gelatine could have affected germination? Sometimes less light (or light of the wrong color) will cause seeds to "think" they are buried too deeply in the soil to sprout.

Abby
November 8, 2007 | 8:00 AM | Lynn  (Team Member)

Lab Entry#2
Lynn's Lab Entry

The millet seeds in the knox gelatine and distilled water have completely sprouted. The millet seeds in knox gelatine and distilled water are lighter in color and larger in size. The millet and clover seeds in jello have not sprouted at all. And the clover seeds in distilled water have completely sprouted and the clover seeds in knox gelatine half have sprouted, and the seeds are darker in color and larger in size.
November 8, 2007 | 7:51 AM | Lynn  (Team Member)

Lab Entry#2
Lynn's Lab Entry

Data Table Seed Type
Day-2&3 millet
November 8, 2007 | 3:15 AM | George  (Team Member)

Yesterday....
Yesterday, we compared the wet seeds to the dry seeds to see change. The millet seeds in the knox gelatine and distilled water have completely sprouted. The millet and clover seeds in jello have not sprouted at all. And the clover seeds in distilled water have completely sprouted and the clover seeds in knox gelatine half have sprouted.
November 6, 2007 | 11:27 PM | Becca Krajewski  (Scientist/Mentor)


I think your project is wonderful! love, el plantos
November 6, 2007 | 2:21 PM | Ms. Abigail Moore  (Scientist/Mentor)

Beginning of the Experiment
Hi Lynn, Tim, George, and Taylor!

It sounds like you've made a good start to your experiment! I'm looking forward to seeing if you start to get germination tomorrow. Are you mixing different amounts of knox gelatine and jello in your two amounts of water (so the ratio of jello to water is the same but the overall amount is different) or are you mixing the same amount of jello in two different volumes of water (so the concentration of the jello is different)?

When you first soaked them, the wet seeds were larger than the dry seeds because the cells in the seeds took up water and got bigger. So at that point the seeds hadn't actually started to grow (by actually making more cells) yet. But probably by the time you read this, the seeds will have started to grow! Why do you think soaked clover seeds are darker than dry clover seeds but soaked millet seeds are lighter than dry millet seeds?

Abby
November 6, 2007 | 7:42 AM | Lynn  (Team Member)

Lab Entry #1
Lynn's Lab Entry
First we mixed knox gelatine and jello in two different beakers for each: 100mm of water and 150 mm of water. WE let the jello and knox gelatine set. We then soaked the millet and clover seeds in distilled water and let them sit for 24 hours. We then cut paper towels into to the same shape as the petri dishes. We then distributed the seeds in labeled petri dishes (6: 2 for knox gelatine, 2 for jello, and 2 for the distilled water).

The differance between the wet and dry seeds:

-Clover
The clover wet seeds are darker in color and larger in size.

-Millet
The millet wet seeds are lighter in color and larger in size.
November 6, 2007 | 2:40 AM | Tim  (Team Member)


Lab Entry #1
Tim's lab entry
We mixed the Knox gelatine and J-ello in a beaker of 100ml of water. We let it sit for 24 hours, then we soaked th millet seeds and the clover seeds in distilled water. Finally we put the seeds in J-ello, Knox Geletine and water(for a control.).

Differences Between the Dry Seeds and the Wet Seeds

-Clover-
The wet seeds looked bigger and darker.

-Millet-
The wet seeds are bigger and look lighter that the dry seeds.

November 6, 2007 | 2:21 AM | George  (Team Member)

Lab Journal Entry 1
Georges lab entry
We have already mixed J-ello and Knox gelatine of 1 150 ml. and 1 100ml. of water for each. We soaked the millet and clover seeds in distilled water yesterday. We put all of the seeds in the J-ello and Knox gelatine.
November 5, 2007 | 11:38 PM | Taylor  (Team Member)

Lab Journal Entry #1
Taylor's Lab entry
We mixed jello and knox gelatine in a beaker of 100 mm of water and 150 mm of water. We then let it set over night. We soaked millet and clover seeds in distilled water. We then cut papper towel's into the same shape as our petri dishes. We also labbeled the petri dishes on what was going to be inside them.

Differance between the dry and wet seeds?
>Clover
The clover wet seeds are a darker color and they are bigger.
>Millet
The Millet wet seeds are a Lighter color than the dry seeds. The wet Millet seeds are aslo bigger than the dry seeds.
November 2, 2007 | 10:50 AM | Ms. Abigail Moore  (Scientist/Mentor)

Good luck!
Hi Team One!

It sounds like you have a good experiment designed. I am looking forward to hearing your thoughts as you perform your experiment! Which seeds do you think will grow best? How are you going to measure growth?

Abby

Abby
November 1, 2007 | 11:26 PM | George  (Team Member)


Abby,
We are going to soak the seeds Monday and we make the jello. We are using clover and millet seeds. We are also going to use two of the petri dishes for seeds in water.
November 1, 2007 | 12:40 PM | Ms. Abigail Moore  (Scientist/Mentor)

Looking good.
Hi Team One!

I think you might want to just put the seeds on the surface of the jello. It's possible that pushing them into the jello each day would hurt the seed if it's already starting to sprout. I think the seeds will get enough moisture just being on the surface.

Oh, and you can call me Abby if you want. I'm a student too, after all.

Abby
November 1, 2007 | 3:18 AM | George  (Team Member)


Hi Ms. Abigail Moore!

We are planning on using red j-ello and clear knox gelatine. We don't believe that the color of the j-ello or knox gelatine will affect the rate of germination. We were also wondering about how to put the seeds in, should we sprinkle them onto the j-ello or should we push them down each day?
October 30, 2007 | 10:48 AM | Ms. Abigail Moore  (Scientist/Mentor)

Nice project!
Hi Team One.

I think your procedure looks good! Are you going to have more than one petri dish per treatment? In experiments these are called replicates. When possible, scientists like to have at least one replicate. In your case, there might be something about the place you put your petri dish with the jello that causes the plants to grow better. If you had two petri dishes for each treatment, you could alternate them (gelatine, jello, gelatine, jello) incase one part of the experiment got more light.

What color is your jello? You might want to think about making the gelatine the same color with food coloring. The color of light seeds receive is sometimes important to how fast they germinate.

Looks good!

Abby
October 30, 2007 | 2:34 AM | George  (Team Member)


Ms. Abigail Moore ,
We are very sorry our procedure wasn't sent on monday ,but it wasn't ready. Here is our procedure:
1. Boil 100 milimeters of water in two different beakers.
2. Put a gram and a-half of both jello's in a beaker. (knox gelatine and J-ello)
3. Mix the j-ello and knox gelatine with a spoon until the mix is completely disolved.
4. Let the mix cool down. Then pour the mix into the patry dish.
5.Cover the dish and let it sit for 24 hours.
6. After 24 hours, sprinkle the seeds on top of the two different j-ellos.
October 25, 2007 | 2:49 AM | George  (Team Member)


We are going to send the procedure on monday and we will tell you what color of jello we will use.
October 24, 2007 | 9:31 AM | Ms. Abigail Moore  (Scientist/Mentor)


I think Knox Gelatine would be an excellent control for your jello experiment! I assume the Knox Gelatine is clear. What color of Jello are you going to use? Do you think the color of the Jello could affect germination?

Abby
October 23, 2007 | 11:13 PM | George  (Team Member)


For the jello test, we found a control. We were thinhking to use Knox Gelatine which is pure protien vs. jello which is protien and carbohydrates. We are assuming that the sugar would be the nutrient.
October 23, 2007 | 1:19 PM | Ms. Abigail Moore  (Scientist/Mentor)


Hi Team One!

It is difficult to say which of your two questions would be better to test for the experiment because they both sound very interesting! What about Jello do you think would affect the rate of germination, added nutrients, more moisture? It might be difficult to find a non-Jello treatment where everything else was exactly the same except for the one thing you really wanted to test.

I think it might be easier to answer your first question, where you look at the difference between seeds that are grouped together and seeds that are spaced out. But I am sure that you could get the Jello experiment to work also if you decide you would rather do it. Either way, I think you will get interesting results.

Abby
October 22, 2007 | 11:33 PM | George  (Team Member)


Our team is debating on which essential question we would like to do. It is between the questions where seeds that are grouped together vs. ones that are spaced out. The other one is how does jello affect the rate of germination. Which one do you think would be better for this experiment?
October 22, 2007 | 12:03 PM | Ms. Abigail Moore  (Scientist/Mentor)

Interesting Questions!
Hi Group One!

You have come up with some great questions! You have clearly thought about this a lot. I don’t know whether seeds that were grouped together would germinate faster than seeds that were spaced out. At least some already sprouted plants can tell if there are other plants growing nearby. Sometimes plants can even tell that their neighbors’ leaves have been eaten and make their own leaves taste worse to animals to avoid getting eaten themselves!

What do you think worms would do to the seeds? They might make the soil nicer for the plants or they might possibly bury the seeds so deeply that they couldn’t sprout.

I am looking forward to finding out what you decide to investigate!

Abby
October 21, 2007 | 11:32 PM | George  (Team Member)

Group ones essential questions
Do worms affect the rate of the seeds germination?
Will a seed that its temperature changes germinate faster than seeds that stay in the same temperature?
How will the germination of a seed get affected by salt water or fresh water?
Do seeds that are grouped togeather germinate faster than seeds spaced out?
Would a seed that is watered daily germinate faster than a seed that is watered every other day?
Does Jello affect the rate of a seeds germination vs. a seed that has fresh water?
Does a seed that is watered with a certian liquid ( milk, juice, pop, etc.) germinate fatser than one watered with fresh water?
October 19, 2007 | 1:45 AM | Ms. Abigail Moore  (Scientist/Mentor)

Welcome Lynn, George, Taylor, and Timmy!
Welcome to Planting Science, Lynn, George, Taylor, and Timmy! I am excited to start working with you as you design your experiments about seed germination. Please ask me any questions you have about your experiment or about botany or science in general.

Now to let you know a little bit about me. I am a graduate student and for my research, I am studying a group of plants called gumplants. They are called gumplants because the area around their flowers is very sticky, probably to keep insects from eating the seeds. Gumplants grow in marshes, in grassy areas, and on the seashore. I am trying to understand how they can grow in all these different places.

I am looking forward to reading your essential questions next week!

Abby
October 18, 2007 | 11:23 PM | George  (Team Member)


Hello this is Saint Sebastian's Team #1, our names are Lynn, George, Taylor and Timmy. We are working on our essential questions and we willl type them in early next week. We are looking forward to working with you. Thanks and good bye.
October 17, 2007 | 3:04 AM | Dr. Claire Hemingway

Welcome to Planting Science!
Hello St. Sebastian Team 1,

We are excited that you are joining this science community. It will be fun to share ideas with you about the experiments on seed germination that you will do. We hope you think it will be fun to post your research findings and talk online with a scientist mentor too.

Your scientist mentor for this project will be Abby Moore. She will be in touch with your shortly.

Feel free to ask questions.

Looking forward to talking more with you, Claire Hemingway




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